HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters and Orville's Draft Grades

Peanut and Play Action

 

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers

QB2: Jon Kitna, Lions

RB: Brian Westbrook, Eagles

RB2: Rudi Johnson, Bengals

WR: Andre Johnson, Texans

WR2: Steve Smith, Panthers

TE: Chris Cooley, Redskins

DEF/ST: Cowboys

FLEX: Santonio Holmes, Steelers

K:

BENCH:

RB Chester Taylor, Vikings

WR Donte Stallworth, Browns

TE Greg Olsen, Bears

 

Analysis:

I love this team’s starters, but hate their backups. Roethlisberger is looking as good as ever and has taken on a leadership role on the Steelers and while Kitna often puts up great fantasy numbers, he is on his last legs.

 

Brian Westbrook is a stud both on the ground and in the air, which explains him being the first overall pick, but Rudi Johnson’s job security is minimal right now and he doesn’t score touchdowns. Andre Johnson, if healthy, is possibly the best receiver in the league, but Steve Smith, who will be missing the first two games of the season was a huge reach.

 

The only position where I like their backup is at the Tight End spot where both of their players have great upside this season.


They have a decent bench, Santonio Holmes is risk/reward, Donte Stallworth could be huge with a change of scenery and more touches and if Adrian Peterson gets injured, which seems likely, Chester Taylor will pay dividends.

 

Grade: B

 

 

The Killer B’s (Bruder and Orville)

 

QB: Drew Brees, Saints

QB2: JaMarcus Russell, Raiders

RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Chargers

RB2: Fred Taylor, Jaguars

WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals

WR2: Calvin Johnson, Lions

TE: Jason Witten, Cowboys

DEF/ST: Steelers

FLEX: DeAngelo Williams, Panthers

K:

BENCH:

WR Donald Driver, Packers

WR Vincent Jackson, Chargers

RB Kevin Jones, Bears

 

Analysis: Bruder and Orville are back for another season of kicking ass and taking names. Having LaDanian Tomlinson fall to the second spot is pretty unprecedented. However, the running back spot outside of Tomlinson is shaky. Fred Taylor is on the wrong side of 30 and will lose touches to Maurice Jones-Drew and DeAngelo Williams will battle with Jonathan Stewart for the starting spot in Carolina.

 

This team has three up-and-coming receivers in Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson and Vincent Jackson, with Donald Driver as the seasoned veteran. None of these four are sure things and while Johnson could break out at any time, he could also hit the sophomore slump.

 

At the Tight End spot, Witten is expected to have double-digit touchdowns and was at the top of most draft boards at his position.

 

Grade: B

 

 

Pizzola and Pierre

 

QB: David Garrard, Jaguars

QB2: Marc Bulger, Rams

RB: Adrian Peterson, Vikings

RB2: Earnest Graham, Buccaneers

WR: Reggie Wayne, Colts

WR2: Lee Evans, Bills

TE: Antonio Gates, Chargers

DEF/ST: Patriots

FLEX: Selvin Young, Broncos

K:

BENCH:

WR Javon Walker, Raiders

TE Todd Heap, Ravens

RB Leon Washington, Jets

 

Analysis: This team had a solid strategy of stockpiling quality talent and running back, wide receiver and tight end and worried about the rest later. They know what they are getting in David Garrard, a few rushing touchdowns and great ball control, Marc Bulger is the wild card; you are looking at either another season riddled with injuries or huge numbers – keep in mind that Bulger was a second round pick in most fantasy drafts last year.

 

At running back, this team is set with Adrian Peterson, Earnest Graham, Selvin Young and Leon Washington. I expect a ton of touchdowns on the ground from this tandem – my only concern is receptions.

 

At the receiver spot, Reggie Wayne was a steal where they drafted him, but Lee Evans is hit-or-miss – he always benefitted from J.P. Losman’s long ball and may falter with Trent Edwards’s conservative brand of play.

 

At tight end, you have to love the duo of Antonio Gates and Todd Heap. Heap has been dropping on draft boards across the land due to injury concerns, but he is a rock when he plays and will be the top target in Baltimore when healthy.

 

Grade: B+

 

 

Brandon and Sacha

 

QB: Carson Palmer, Bengals

QB2: Jason Campbell, Redskins

RB: Steven Jackson, Rams

RB2: Willis McGahee, Ravens

WR: Jerricho Cotchery, Jets

WR2: Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs

TE: Vernon Davis, 49ers

DEF/ST: Giants Defense

FLEX: Chris Johnson, Titans

K: Rob Bironas, Titans

BENCH:

WR Santana Moss, Redskins

RB Chris Perry, Bengals

 

Analysis: This team is risk/reward all the way, which is tricky to grade. The only sure thing on this team is Carson Palmer continuing to put up huge numbers on a weekly basis. Jackson continues to get selected high in fantasy drafts despite lacking on-the-field preparedness due to his holdout and a season where he did not live up to expectations – but when he tries, you know how effective he can be. Even if he doesn’t dominate, Willis McGahee is a very safe bet as the second running back and is better than some teams primary running backs.

 

Their receivers are questions marks. Jerricho Cotchery had very few touchdowns last season, but will he step up with Brett Favre behind center? Dwayne Bowe is a fantastic up-and-comer who will get even more touches this year and is a draft sleeper. Santana Moss could go either way.

 

This is Vernon Davis’s last chance to prove that he warranted a first round selection. He has all of the tools and has shown what he can do if he is healthy, but without a contingency plan, this pick could bomb.

 

This team also has a lot of question marks, including the injured Rob Bironas, the Giants defense without Osi Umenyiora and two running backs in Chris Perry and Chris Johnson who may not start until late in the season or at all.

 

Grade: C-

 

 

Richard and Ben in B.C.

 

QB: Jake Delhomme, Panthers

QB2: Vince Young, Titans

RB: Joseph Addai, Colts

RB2: Darren McFadden, Raiders

WR: Braylon Edwards, Browns

WR2: Marques Colston, Saints

TE: Kellen Winslow Jr., Browns

DEF/ST: Vikings Defense

FLEX: Roddy White, Falcons

K:

BENCH:

RB Ray Rice, Ravens

RB Ahmad Bradshaw, Giants

RB Jerious Norwood, Falcons

 

Analysis: This team has been subject to criticism on this website and I don’t necessarily echo those sentiments. Joseph Addai will be huge on the ground and in the air and Darren McFadden is a huge wildcard.

 

Much of the criticism rests on the shoulders of Ray Rice, Ahmad Bradshaw and Jerious Norwood, all of whom are backup running backs who could have very limited touches. I agree with the criticism on this front.

 

However, this team has, in my opinion, the best receiving corps of any team in this league. Braylon Edwards is expected to put up even better numbers than last year, Marques Colston is the number one target for a throw-happy quarterback in New Orleans and Roddy White, who was dissed during the draft, is an incredible up-and-comer who will be the number one target for trigger-happy Matt Ryan.

 

Kellen Winslow Jr. is a top-3 tight end any way you slice it, but is in my opinion, the best tight end in the league when healthy and motivated.

 

The Vikings defense is probably the most valuable one in the league.

 

Grade: B-

 

Gentile and Damon

 

QB: Tom Brady, Patriots

QB2: Aaron Rodgers, Packers

RB: Willie Parker, Steelers

RB2: Jamal Lewis, Browns

WR: Plaxico Burress, Giants

WR2: Bernard Berrien, Vikings

TE: Tony Gonzalez, Chiefs

DEF/ST: Bears

FLEX: Edgerrin James, Cardinals

K: Stephen Gostkowski, Patriots

BENCH:

WR Joey Galloway, Buccaneers

RB Felix Jones, Cowboys

 

Analysis: Aaron Rodgers and Felix Jones aside, this team is stacked with proven commodities that are known to get it done. Tom Brady was the best player in fantasy football last season and he was a no-brainer at the sixth overall pick. At first, I thought that Willie Parker was a reach, but given that Jamal Lewis was taken next, those are two high quality backs. Not to mention that their third back is another starter in Edgerrin James who lingered on the draft board longer than he should have.

 

At wide receiver, Plaxico Burress was a steal, especially with more touches available from Shockey being dealt. Berrien is only 25 and will be the primary receiver on the Vikings. I expect him to have another very good season.

 

You know what you are getting with Tony Gonzalez and he will likely be the primary target for the Chiefs if he isn’t hobbled by age.

 

The backups are high risk/reward with Aaron Rodgers and Felix Jones’s upside and Joey Galloway, who seems to age like a fine wine. With the amount of experience on this roster, the aforementioned players are certainly worth the risk.

 

Grade: A

 

 

Geoff and Bullock

 

QB: Tony Romo, Cowboys

QB2: Phillip Rivers, Chargers

RB: Laurence Maroney, Patriots

RB2: Ronnie Brown, Dolphins

WR: Randy Moss, Patriots

WR2: Greg Jennings, Packers

TE: Dallas Clark, Colts

DEF/ST: Chargers

FLEX: Matt Forte, Bears

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BENCH:

RB Rashard Mendenhall, Steelers

WR Antwaan Randle-El, Redskins

RB Chris Brown, Texans

 

Analysis: You have to love the quarterback duo of Romo and Rivers. Rivers is a natural born leader and Romo is going to continue to get it done.

 

The biggest problem with this team are their running backs. Laurence Maroney is a terrible fantasy running back – he never gets touchdowns and rarely has big runs. Ronnie Brown was one of the top-5 running backs at the beginning of last year, but if Ricky Williams has been named the starter, his injury problems are likely recurring. Matt Forte and Rashard Mendenhall are big question marks as rookies.

 

Their receivers are solid with Randy Moss, Greg Jennings and Dallas Clark at the tight end spot, but they have very little depth and Randle-El likely would have gone undrafted.

 

Grade: C

 

 

Cam and Scott in Maryland

 

QB: Peyton Manning, Colts

QB2: Matt Ryan, Falcons

RB: Clinton Portis, Redskins

RB2: Jonathan Stewart, Panthers

WR: T.J. Houshmanzadeh, Bengals

WR2: Roy Williams, Lions

TE: L.J. Smith, Eagles

DEF/ST: Packers

FLEX: Julius Jones, Seahawks

K: Nick Folk, Cowboys

BENCH:

WR Derrick Mason, Ravens

WR Ted Ginn Jr., Dolphins

 

Analysis: Scott felt that he did a poor job as a GM at the draft, but from the look of his team, he certainly could have done a lot worse.

 

Peyton Manning is a consistent fantasy quarterback who will take almost every snap if his injury concerns are laid to rest. Matt Ryan has been named the Falcons starter and if you watched Boston College games last year, you’ll know that he loves to throw for big yards. I expect that he will be minimally utilized with Manning as the starter.

 

The running backs are good, but not great. Portis is an upper-tier back who will be consistent and get almost all of the touches in Washington. Jonathan Stewart is battling for the starting position in Carolina, but is expected to get touches regardless and Julius Jones is not a big touchdown scorer, but he will get a huge share of the offensive load with the Seahawks.

 

The wide receivers are more than solid with T.J. Houshmanzadeh and Roy Williams – you know what to expect from both of these guys and that is 100+ yard games week in and week out. Derrick Mason will cash in with the one point per reception system in place and Ted Ginn Jr. is expected to have a vastly expanded role for the Dolphins.

 

Nick Folk is the top-rated kicker on most people’s draft boards and is expected to make his share of deep field goals, but I’m not sure if the Packers defense was their best bet where they picked.

 

Grade: C+

 

 

Hayes and Rob in Milwaukee

 

QB: Jay Cutler, Broncos

QB2: Derek Anderson, Browns

RB: Frank Gore, 49ers

RB2: Ryan Grant, Packers

WR: Anquan Boldin, Cardinals

WR2: Chad Johnson, Bengals

TE: Ben Watson, Patriots

DEF/ST: Colts

FLEX: Brandon Marshall, Broncos

K:

BENCH:

WR Chris Chambers, Chargers

RB Justin Fargas, Raiders

WR Sidney Rice, Vikings

 

Analysis: The biggest problem that this team will have is deciding who to start at quarterback. The Browns look like they will be a well-oiled offensive machine and Cutler is once again expected to have a breakout year.

 

The best element of this team is the great duos at each position: Cutler and Anderson at quarterback, Anquan Boldin and Ocho Cinco at wide receiver and the running back tandem of Frank Gore and Ryan Grant, which may be the league’s best.

 

The biggest concern would have to be the tight end position. I expect Ben Watson to get his share of touches in the red zone, but he won’t be utilized as much as some of the other tight ends who were on the board.

 

The backups on this team are really solid and Sidney Rice was a huge steal at the end of this draft.

 

Grade: A-

 

 

Vegas Dave and Corey

 

QB: Donovan McNabb, Eagles

QB2: Matt Schaub, Texans

RB: Marshawn Lynch, Bills

RB2: Larry Johnson, Chiefs

WR: Marvin Harrison, Colts

WR2: Anthony Gonzalez, Colts

TE: Jeremy Shockey, Saints

DEF/ST:

FLEX: Thomas Jones, Jets

K:

BENCH:

RB LenDale White, Titans

RB Deuce McAllister, Saints

TE Alge Crumpler, Titans

RB Ricky Williams, Dolphins

 

Analysis: For two guys who host a fantasy sports show, they could have done a lot better than what they ended up with.

 

The quarterback duo of Donovan McNabb and Matt Schaub is very hit or miss. Both dealt with injury problems last season and McNabb is a huge risk/reward pick. When McNabb is at his finest, his numbers are off the chart, but there is a lot of baggage that comes along with selecting him.

 

The running back duo of Larry Johnson and Marshawn Lynch is stellar and with the four backups at the running back position, you have got to imagine that they are scouring the trade market for value.

 

Their tight end duo of Jeremy Shockey and Alge Crumpler is exceptional and it might be worth a shot to start Crumpler in week one as he will likely be Vince Young’s primary target.

 

They only have two wide receivers and they are both on the same team. That’s a no no.

 

Grade: C

 

Big E and Big E in S.C.

 

QB: Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks

QB2: Eli Manning, Giants

RB: Marion Barber, Cowboys

RB2: Maurice Jones-Drew, Jaguars

WR: Torry Holt, Rams

WR2: Hines Ward, Steelers

TE: Owen Daniels, Texans

DEF/ST:

FLEX: Brandon Jacobs, Giants

K: Adam Vinatieri, Colts

BENCH:

RB Kevin Smith, Lions

WR Patrick Crayton, Cowboys

WR Reggie Brown, Eagles

 

Analysis: The team formerly known as The Gridiron Dominators has an array of proven players outside of Kevin Smith. They may also have the best bench of any team in the league.

 

At quarterback, Matt Hasselbeck has always put up great numbers as a fantasy quarterback and is expected to continue doing so this season. Eli Manning is as good a backup as you’ll find and could get some starts when the Giants play teams with weak defenses.

 

Marion Barber will be a touchdown machine this year if he doesn’t wear down as the season goes on. Maurice Jones-Drew will split carries with Fred Taylor, but with the one point per reception addition, Jones-Drew will certainly benefit. Brandon Jacobs is another great backup and Kevin Smith is the starter in Detroit. To have four starting running backs of this caliber is quite the feat.

 

Their receivers are proven, but both Torry Holt and Hines Ward are entering the down slope of their career. This may not matter with quality receivers like Patrick Crayton and Reggie Brown on the bench. Owen Daniels is expected to have a breakout year – he was selected a little bit higher than normal, but not high enough to call it an error.

 

Grade: A

 

 

 

 

Sarah and Bottom Line J

 

QB: Brett Favre, Jets

QB2: Tarvaris Jackson, Vikings

RB: Reggie Bush, Saints

RB2: Michael Turner, Falcons

WR: Terrell Owens, Cowboys

WR2: Wes Welker, Patriots

TE: Heath Miller, Steelers

DEF/ST: Seahawks

FLEX: Laveranues Coles, Jets

K:

BENCH:

RB Ahman Green, Texans

WR Nate Burleson, Seahawks

RB LaMont Jordan, Patriots

 

Analysis: A lot of people are hating on this team, but if you look at it realistically, you will realize that it is not all that bad.

 

The biggest concern is at quarterback where Brett Favre will be the Jets starting quarterback and have to adapt to a new team on short notice. Tarvaris Jackson throws his share of interceptions and continuously has his passing skills called into question.

 

This team received staunch criticism for taking Reggie Bush in the first round, but with the one point per reception rule addition, this is not a bad pick at all. Bush will continue to get more touches in the Saints offense and is incredible in the open field. Michael Turner is a risk/reward pick, but from all indications, his performance is leaning towards the latter. Turner is a truck on offense and will be motivated by finally being the primary running back in a team’s offense. Ahman Green is beaten down, but he’s a starter in Houston and LaMont Jordan will likely lead the Patriots in rushing touchdowns.

 

This team also has a great platoon of wide receivers. Terrell Owens is a top-2 fantasy receiver and will want to prove to the world that he is not past his prime. Wes Welker proved his worth in the Patriots offense last year as Tom Brady’s second favorite target. Laveranues Coles will love having Brett Favre as his quarterback and will hope to be as effective as he was at the beginning of last season.

 

My favorite pick on this team is Heath Miller. Ben Roethlisberger asked management to sign a big receiver and they never did – that leaves Heath Miller. I would not be surprised if he leads the Steelers in receptions this year.

 

Grade: C+


Posted Aug 24 2008, 01:43 PM by Dave Golokhov

Comments

Brandon in Ajax wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-24-2008 7:26 PM 08-24-2008 7:26 PM

Richard & Ben in BC and Sarah and BLJ have some of the worst fantasy teams I have ever seen.

Mike Gentile wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-24-2008 10:18 PM 08-24-2008 10:18 PM

Interesting ... last year BLJ also got ripped heading into the season but surprised many ... so who do you all think are the top 2-3 teams in this league?

Scott in Maryland wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-24-2008 10:25 PM 08-24-2008 10:25 PM

Can I volunteer GM performance today as the worst. I mean, I am up against Bottom Line "Reggie Bush in the 1st Round" Jay, but I think I can compete. The combination of no Cam, picking 8th and being solely responsible for a screaming 2 and 5 year-old was a contributing factor, but I still sucked.

Power Play MacKay wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-24-2008 11:38 PM 08-24-2008 11:38 PM

As someone who sat in on this draft it was a ton of fun. Hockey is much more of my sport then football is but... Reggie Bush in the first round... also taking the Bears' defense in the 7th round of a 15 round draft. That is like lighting a pick on fire and watching it burn ha ha.

Hobe wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 12:26 AM 08-25-2008 12:26 AM

Top two is Gentile & Damon and Cohen and the big E

Marion Barber

Maurice Jones-Drew

Torry Holt

Brandon Jacbos

no offense but Cohen probably has the best team picked. i dont seem him losing only possibly to Gentile.

Issy In Halifax wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 8:03 AM 08-25-2008 8:03 AM

I like Peanut, Pizzola and Gentile's team's. Honrable mention to Sacha & Brandon & Richard's team (I believe they will be a sleeper). Good Luck to all the teams, we will all be watching.

Richard Garner wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 10:47 AM 08-25-2008 10:47 AM

Wow, what a first blog to read. Brandon in ajax cuts right to the chase and proclaims Ben in BC and my team as one of the worst he's ever seen. Well, first of all, I obviously disagree, but without wasting time and oxygen in a non stop, back and forth "uh-huh" "unh-uh" fest, let's resort to the ultimate problem solver whenit comes to matter sof prediction: A Wager. Someone asked me once why I always wanted to solve things with a bet. The answer is simple: It's efficient, it cuts to the chase and it forces people to be accountable. So, let's cut to the chase Ajax Brandon, how's about a little wager?

Ben in BC wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 11:09 AM 08-25-2008 11:09 AM

I am not too sure how our team is so bad, especially in this league... We have three #1 WRs that will get between 80-90 receptions, which in a PPR league, will be more than valuable. All three of those WRs have the ability to break the 50+ yards for a TD and get us those big play points. Roddy White will be our flex player until someone emerges. Addai is another gem in a PPR league, along with Winslow, and Minny D will be racking up points on a week to week basis.

Two bounce back QBs and some upside RBs in later rounds - its a playoff team (like last year) and with some waiver wire work, this team will be tough to beat on a week to week basis. Richard will bitch slap the peanut gallery (ie Ajax Brandon)

Rob In Milwaukee wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 11:29 AM 08-25-2008 11:29 AM

Richard - if Hayes if up for a wager

I am in on our record versus yours

Matt in St Louis wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 11:50 AM 08-25-2008 11:50 AM

Is this a head to Head league?  If so, what are the first week matchups?

Bullock wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 12:15 PM 08-25-2008 12:15 PM

I think myself and Ge-Off are gonna be in the mix. Especially with the last minute addition of the PPR. Moss is not a 10-12 catch/game guy, but he will make it up in TD's and yards. Dallas Clark is solid @ tight in ( guessin 60+ catches, 700 yards). Little worried about the backfield, but if our wild card Ronnie Brown can bounce back, we will be in good shape. Plus Romo has enough weapons to put the ball in the endzone.  We shall see....

Mike Gentile wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters
on 08-25-2008 2:11 PM 08-25-2008 2:11 PM

To Matt in St Louis ... the Commissioner is going to register the league today and we will actually have standings and match-ups on the front of the website soon afterwards ... take care Matt ... what do you think of the teams?

Ben in BC wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters and Orville's Draft Grades
on 08-25-2008 3:48 PM 08-25-2008 3:48 PM

High grades across the board and if we started all the players we drafted, maybe that would be warranted. BUT we do NOT start everyone and having two superb QBs is useless when we only run with one - same with two TEs since the flex position (at least last year) was RB/WR. Good luck using unusable players!

Bottom Line J wrote re: HFFL II: Post-Draft Rosters and Orville's Draft Grades
on 08-25-2008 4:07 PM 08-25-2008 4:07 PM

I got a D for a grade last year.  Wait until Michael Turner starts going crazy.  Then we'll see how "awful" this team is. Brandon maybe thou shant snort Ajax so much tis clouding thine judgement.

Too many Favre haters out there, Cotchery and Coles are going to have fantasticx seasons, and I am a Pats fan!!!!!

BLJ